How could a TIN alone be used elsewhere?

[uranium08]

In some countries, including territorial-tax ones, a tourist can obtain TIN. I've obtain a few from some - they won't hurt.
I don't have residencies in those countries.

Can a TIN ALSO be used ELSEWHERE, rather then in the country itself? For even some banks will allow you to self-assess your tax residency.
Where and how else?

 

[JohnnyDoe]

You can use it with banks, pretending to be resident in that country, but you would also have to produce a proof of residence.
Banks rely on your declaration, they don’t have a way to check where you really reside.

 

[JohnnyDoe]

BTW the TIN is just a string of text/numbers. If you know the format, you don’t even need to obtain it for real, just create one yourself.
For example, the Italian TIN (codice fiscale) can be created on many websites. One such websites: Calcolo Codice Fiscale Estero - ProfessioneGiustizia.it
There are ways to check if the person is really registered with the tax office, but rarely banks go through such hassle.

 

[Marty McFly]

A TIN and some photoshop is all what it takes to trick banks 😀

 

[Wellington]

I always used to stick the tin in EMI's -> the country wasn't part of CRS at the time, and they don't tax offshore wealth/funds/activity.

I doubt they check its just automated, probably be funny if you find someone with similar initials, and use their tin ha ha

In some countries, including territorial-tax ones, a tourist can obtain TIN. I've obtain a few from some - they won't hurt.
I don't have residencies in those countries.

Can a TIN ALSO be used ELSEWHERE, rather then in the country itself? For even some banks will allow you to self-assess your tax residency.
Where and how else?

 

[Paratore]

BTW the TIN is just a string of text/numbers. If you know the format, you don’t even need to obtain it for real, just create one yourself.
For example, the Italian TIN (codice fiscale) can be created on many websites. One such websites: Calcolo Codice Fiscale Estero - ProfessioneGiustizia.it
There are ways to check if the person is really registered with the tax office, but rarely banks go through such hassle.

That works for a codice fiscale because there is a formula for creating one based on your name and place of birth, etc. You can predictably invent one and it will be true to the one that is issued from AdE. This is not true for a US SSN or Canadian SIN. Though those have some correlation to place of birth, it’s not reliable nor predictable. The uses are a bit different across the three, as well, so you can run into pitfalls.

The CF is ideal for this sort of thing, since you know how to make exactly what yours would be, there is little risk of making another person’s by mistake, and the way it is used they don’t check if it’s actually assigned. On the other hand, it’s free to get an actual one just by writing a letter and a form to the local Italian consulate. You’ll have it in a week, most times.

A SSN is a different matter. It’s almost certain to be flagged somewhere if invalid, but there is little the US government can or will do about it. Legally, it’s not supposed to be used for identification or anything but social security tax withholdings. Practically, it is misused that way and is easily checked against databases for validity, but that legal gray area means there is little legal remedy for misusing one outside of tax enforcement.

SINs appear to have limited use, although I’m a bit new to this one. It’s more like an Italian Tessera Sanitaria. You provide one to a company if you’re employed by them and there is probably some self-employment usage, and it allows access to socialized health care. It does not seem to be used like a CF or SSN for random things like leases or car rentals.

Other tax IDs, like Armenian INN, I’ve not used outside of company formation and tax reporting.

The CF formula is on the Wikipedia page should one be curious.

Italian fiscal code - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org