The new excuse to delay payment: “We’ll send it to the U.S. Treasury”

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Based on a true story. So absurd it almost deserves copyright protection.

At the beginning of 2024 I sent $25k, in USDT, to a company that was supposed to provide a service. The service never happened.
A month later, I asked for a refund, and they admitted they owed it. No dispute, all good.

That’s where reason ended.

First came the email chorus: “We need an invoice.”
Then the classic sequel: “Our compliance team needs to review it.”
After weeks of “reviewing”, they unveiled a new plot twist worthy of a Kafka novel:

“We can only return the funds to the same Binance wallet they came from.”

Anyone who’s ever used Binance knows how ridiculous that is. Binance sends from one of its internal addresses, not from the user’s wallet.
Fine, I said, let’s do it properly. Binance confirmed it could be manually allocated to my wallet. Problem solved, right?

Wrong. Months passed by. Binance later closed my account. I sent the company a new deposit address. I even offered my Bank of America account as a backup.
Both were rejected by their “compliance department.” Apparently, they had strict internal rules about not returning money.

And finally, the ultimate excuse, which should be patented for future use:

We’ll send the funds to the U.S. Treasury to ensure compliance with global regulations.

Yes, according to these self-proclaimed finance experts, the U.S. Treasury needed to personally approve and intermediate my refund. Janet Yellen had to babysit my $25,000 refund.

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Eventually, in spring 2025 we signed a settlement agreement for $23,000 (due to unspecified "currency conversion fees"), payable within 72 hours. They ignored that too.

So I sued them: the company, its CEO, his nephew, his lawyer.

In court, they didn’t even deny the debt. They just repeated their mantra about “full compliance with U.S. and global regulatory bodies.” The judge, visibly unimpressed by their creative compliance theater, ordered them to pay $35k within thirty days, or start paying interest.

From $25,000 to $35,000.
A 40% premium for pure stupidity.

The moral? “Compliance” is the modern fig leaf of incompetence. It sounds respectable, feels important, and buys time, until a judge rips it off.
The business world is full of this kind of fake professionalism. Clowns who speak fluent buzzword but can’t do the simplest thing: honor an agreement.

And if you ever need a fresh excuse to delay payment, feel free to recycle this one:

“We’ll send it to the U.S. Treasury.”

Just make sure you know how the story ends.
 
The best movies I’ve ever seen are based on true stories, and this one—titled ‘Send It to the U.S. Treasury’ —looks like it could be the next Oscar winner 😂 It only can be a true story; no one could possibly make something like that up!
 
A bizarre story. They probably just wanted to postpone the refund or never complete it. And of course they never expected this kind of backlash. Although it is pure stupidity on their behalf.

Not only is compliance annoying, but so are terms and conditions. Important and necessary for your own business but a counterparty can really bother you with these things. For anyone reading this, the important advice I'd like to give (perhaps very obvious) is to always read everything carefully. Everything. I know it sounds way too obvious but this happened to me last week:

I signed up for a SaaS subscription thinking I could cancel it on a monthly basis. Not surprising, considering it's a simple server. Until I was reminded of the terms and conditions on the website. Fine, but I'd never been told about them or agreed to them. Never signed a contract (although not needed B2B). They wanted me to continue paying for another year: a total of €20,000. It felt like a rip-off to me, and just a money grab, so I decided to take it to court. It ultimately cost me €10,000, but I can be very principled. Fortunately, I had a smart lawyer who appealed to the unreasonableness of the conditions, which were indeed declared null and void by the judge. If I had filed a lawsuit in the US, I probably would have been out of luck. Lesson learned.
 
I signed up for a SaaS subscription thinking I could cancel it on a monthly basis. Not surprising, considering it's a simple server. Until I was reminded of the terms and conditions on the website. Fine, but I'd never been told about them or agreed to them. Never signed a contract (although not needed B2B). They wanted me to continue paying for another year: a total of €20,000. It felt like a rip-off to me, and just a money grab, so I decided to take it to court. It ultimately cost me €10,000, but I can be very principled. Fortunately, I had a smart lawyer who appealed to the unreasonableness of the conditions, which were indeed declared null and void by the judge. If I had filed a lawsuit in the US, I probably would have been out of luck. Lesson learned.
What if you just walked away without paying? Do you think they would have moved forward to collection? Any chances of success for them?

A bizarre story. They probably just wanted to postpone the refund or never complete it. And of course they never expected this kind of backlash. Although it is pure stupidity on their behalf.
I have no idea. It’s impossible to understand stupidity.
If they just didn’t want to refund they could have simply disappeared, and it would have been much more difficult and expensive for me to recover the money.
 
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What if you just walked away without paying? Do you think they would have moved forward to collection? Any chances of success for them?
In hindsight I could've done that and nothing much would've happened most likely. I'm in another country, collecting debt isn't easy that way. I was just displeased with how they treated me and wanted to prove a point. Better to let these things slide 9 out of 10 times (without paying).
 
In hindsight I could've done that and nothing much would've happened most likely. I'm in another country, collecting debt isn't easy that way. I was just displeased with how they treated me and wanted to prove a point. Better to let these things slide 9 out of 10 times (without paying).
Bingo! It’s not worth to prove points, especially when the money is already in your pockets. At the end the winners are just the lawyers.
 
At the end the winners are just the lawyers.
Always reported, always sued... cause that's how I was taught 🙄.
But it's not always convenient. And you really must be innocent and have a strong trust in the system (spoiler: don't trust the system!).
The truth that emerges from the trial does not always coincide with the true reality of things...
it takes experience/time/money to learn this.

Ultimately you (usually) do win the cases, but you'll ask yourself multiple times if is it worth to pay lawyers for those many years for small amounts.
The trial will take space in your head till it ends. The lawyer will stalk you, ask money, apply pressure to get more money out of you... etc
your lawyer will be the first one to doubt the system. "You are innocent, but we don't know how it will end."
Not only that, you'll see how crooked and bureaucratic and useless are many judges, lawyers and the whole system once you go through it in first person.
I've got experience in a few countries... on the practical side it's almost always better to settle than to sue if the damage is small.
The issue is that sometimes you will not be able to reach an agreement, even at a loss...
But don't overestimate first world justice systems: you may win a case, but nobody will pay you, and you will have to pay your lawyer and court fees too...
just for a worthless piece of paper that says "ok you won, congrats"!

winning a case ≠ getting your money back
always do the math and include lawyers fees and the worst outcome.
Lawyers just scare honest people... criminal don't give a F about legalese and letterhead.
If someone truly doesn't want to pay you back, no judge in this world will be able to make you recover your money.
But you also must remember that criminals have more common sense than judges...
 
Always reported, always sued... cause that's how I was taught 🙄.
But it's not always convenient. And you really must be innocent and have a strong trust in the system (spoiler: don't trust the system!).
The truth that emerges from the trial does not always coincide with the true reality of things...
it takes experience/time/money to learn this.

Ultimately you (usually) do win the cases, but you'll ask yourself multiple times if is it worth to pay lawyers for those many years for small amounts.
The trial will take space in your head till it ends. The lawyer will stalk you, ask money, apply pressure to get more money out of you... etc
your lawyer will be the first one to doubt the system. "You are innocent, but we don't know how it will end."
Not only that, you'll see how crooked and bureaucratic and useless are many judges, lawyers and the whole system once you go through it in first person.
I've got experience in a few countries... on the practical side it's almost always better to settle than to sue if the damage is small.
The issue is that sometimes you will not be able to reach an agreement, even at a loss...
But don't overestimate first world justice systems: you may win a case, but nobody will pay you, and you will have to pay your lawyer and court fees too...
just for a worthless piece of paper that says "ok you won, congrats"!

winning a case ≠ getting your money back
always do the math and include lawyers fees and the worst outcome.
Lawyers just scare honest people... criminal don't give a F about legalese and letterhead.
If someone truly doesn't want to pay you back, no judge in this world will be able to make you recover your money.
But you also must remember that criminals have more common sense than judges...
Criminals always know who the other criminals are, therefore they steer clear of the judiciary. The courts are just a branch of the state mafia.
As I said here
Thread 'Can you find justice in a courtroom?'
Can you find justice in a courtroom?
You can’t find justice in court. You can’t find the truth. It’s only a game played by stupids, and bullies.

Sometimes you are forced to go to court because the other party is too stupid to understand that it’s always better to avoid it and settle. In fact, 99% of civil cases end before trial with a settlement.

Lawyers are the scum of humanity. Never trust your lawyers. Just use them as a tool, give them precise instructions and only the information strictly necessary for your case.

Having experienced the judiciary in a dozen of different countries so far and spent an obscene amount of money on lawyers, I can say that everywhere it’s the same story, always. As a businessman, you should be setup in a way to be able to avoid courts in the first place, otherwise most of your resources (money and time) will be wasted there.
 
Any update on the missing 3k?
Convo with the lawyers (spread over weeks):

- can you wire the funds?
- Yes, we will do so. We will need to do a kyc first, which I will arrange
- Would we be able to send you a cheque or to send the wire to your US account?
- The account is in the USA and you can wire the funds to it.
- Would it work if we send you a cheque?
- Please just send a wire, it would be a nightmare to cash a foreign physical cheque. A standard USD wire to my account.
- We will do so. Because your trust funds are in CAD, we will render our invoice, convert balance of the funds to USD at the prevailing rate offered by our bank and send them to you.

Nothing received yet 😕

I don’t think I will chase the missing 3k. I’m going to be happy enough if I receive something from the lawyers.
 
So the main issue remains receiving the 31.5k 😱 not the missing 3k 😬

I can’t believe the lawyers are taking longer than one month to transfer the recovered funds… Is this the usual practice, or is it an exception in this particular case?
 
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